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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 19 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 145

Today's Topics:

      AppleTalk over Structured Wiring
      ark File decompression
      Centris 610 CDROMs
      Centris upgrade pah to PowerPC
      Error types
      Expanding my aging Mac II
      IBM Disk Inserted INIT (C)
      LC II Motherboards needed
      MacPPP 1.1.3 release
      Mouse ball replacement?
      Power PC Peripherals (A?)
      StuffIt! Expander 3.02 (C)
      System 7.1 and Mode32 (C)
      Tapes & Backup for Mac
      Termination on Mac Drives
      TeX-generated Postscript to EPS? (A)
      THINK C: UK upgrade prices [Q]
      trouble typing the letter 'o'
      Upgrade from IIsi to Centris?
      Word 4.0d and System 7.1
      Zapping PRAM solves strange problems

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 08:46:07 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Francis Knight, SIEM UK Felixstowe)
Subject: AppleTalk over Structured Wiring

Our buildings had a complete overhaul a couple of years ago. As part of
this, structured data wiring was installed, for Ethernet and Token Ring. We
use 4*twisted-pair 24AWG cable to RJ45 sockets, running Ethernet on pins
1,2,3 and 6, which appears to conform to a standard assignment. Last week I
verified that AppleTalk and PhoneNet connectors perform satisfactorily over
this wiring (using one twisted pair).

There's just one question: Is there a recommended standard pin assignment
for an 8-pin RJ45 employed for PhoneNet connections?

I lied. There's another question: can anyone recommend a one-box solution
to bridge (as distinct from repeat) between several PhoneNet or LocalTalk
nets and Ethernet, to handle AppleTalk and IP traffic?

Cheers,
Francis

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 10:26:14 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: ark File decompression

The various files on my Canvas 3.0 master disks are all in a compressed
format with the postfix ".ark", type GCcm and ceator CMap.

Is there a readily available decompressor for this sort of file?

Canvas has an installer on the first disk that lets you decompress the
whole mess, but with only very limited selectivity, and zero ability to
inspect the contents of any single ".ark" file. This is a bloody nuisance
if you want to decompress a file or two, especially if you don't know on
which of those ark files it is.

Regards,
Herb Kroemer

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 09:39:21 pst
From: "Peter Chane" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Centris 610 CDROMs

Can I run CD-ROMs directly off the CD drive on a Centris 610 without copying
them to the HD?  I am vacillating between buying a 610 or a 650 CD system.
(Check out Apple's higher education back to school prices!!!!)

Thanks in advance!

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 09:45:32 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Nathaniel Wice)
Subject: Centris upgrade pah to PowerPC

Will somebody please explain once and for all how the 68040 machines
will be upgradeable to the PowerPC? A dealer told me last week that
the $400-odd 601 chip will plug right into a rom socket on the Centris
motherboard. For real? Apple's never done anything so nice before, could
it really be true?

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 10:32:29 EDT
From: Bailey Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Error types

Neters,

Could someone please tell me where I can find information on Mac error codes
and error types. Some of my applications have been quiting immediately after
they start, and my mac says that the app quit die to an error of type one.

General Info: running on PB160, sys 7.1, only 4 non-apple extensions
          1) Connectix PB utils  2) SAM  3) BeHierarchic 4) Speedy Finder
          7

Profuse thanks,
Bailey

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Date: 19 Jul 1993 17:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Expanding my aging Mac II

I do most of my work on a Macintosh II, which is beginning to show its age.
I've installed 8 MB of RAM, a PMMU chip, and an AEHD+ floppy drive so I can
use high density diskettes.

Using Mode32 and System 7, I've been able to take advantage of virtual
memory; I've also learned how _slow_ virtual memory can be.  When I use
Photoshop, I turn off virtual memory and use Photoshop's own memory
management, but with only 8 meg of RAM it's still painfully slow when working
on large images.

I'd like to add to the RAM in my machine, but I'm getting conflicting
information as to what I can get away with.  According to some sources, to
use any more RAM I will need to get Apple's FDHD upgrade, which includes
improved ROMs which can handle the extra RAM.  This upgrade would also give
me a SuperDrive, which I don't really need now!  Other sources tell me that
the Mac II can handle up to 20 MB of RAM _without_ the FDHD upgrade, using 4
MB PAL SIMMs in the second bank.

My question to the kind souls in this group is as follows:  Can a Macintosh
II without the FDHD upgrade really handle 20 MB of RAM, or am I stuck with
also getting the FDHD upgrade?

Thanks in advance for any insights; please post any responses to me, and I'll
summarize for the digest.

--Larry Cunningham
  [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 09:45:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IBM Disk Inserted INIT (C)

[e-mail] writes:
>I believe you will find Access PC, MacPC Exchange, and DOS Mount will
>have at least some of the features you are looking for. None link
>directly with SoftPC of course, but that makes sense to me. DOS
>shouldn't know if you have a disk in there anyway. :-)

SoftPC, when in the foreground, treats the floppy drive like a DOS drive
(i.e., drive A) and doesn't need help from a DOS mounter INIT.

Paul Baim

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 12:35 EST
From: Jim Allison <[e-mail]>
Subject: LC II Motherboards needed

Our campus was hit badly by lightening in a recent thunderstorm and 8 or more
LCIIs had their serial ports fried. As I understand it, an entire new mother
boardis required for the repair.  Does anyone know of a place to buy
re-conditioned
mother boards at discount.

Jim Allison
Clark University

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:59:39 -0400
From: "Larry J. Blunk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPPP 1.1.3 release

   A new version of MacPPP has been released on merit.edu.
This version fixes a bug introduced in the 1.1.1 release
which prevented PPP from working if the serial input
or output driver name exceeded 15 characters.  The size
of the two arrays which holds these names have been
increased to allow 127 character names.

 -Larry Blunk
  Merit Network, Inc.
  Ann Arbor, MI

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 09:08:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joseph Chiang-Shen Wu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mouse ball replacement?

Does anyone know how I can get a heavy, gray mouse ball to replace my
black mouse ball?  I have one of the new ergonomic mouses and it seems to
grime-up the rollers with the black mouse ball material a lot sooner than
my old Apple mouse.  BTW, I have tried shaving some of the plastic over
the ball and this definitely improved tracking with the mouse button down.
I have a friend with a gray ball ergonomic mouse and he has had no
problems at all.

Thanks,
email:  [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 10:25:20 BST
From: Jonathan Kolodny
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Power PC Peripherals (A?)

A while ago, I posted a question on the digest asking if anyone knew about the
type of hard drive the Power PC would require, since I was hoping to replace
my current drive and wanted to ensure that the replacement would be compatible
if I upgrade to a PPC next year as planned.  I had a few requests for
information, but no responses from the net.  However, Adam Engst suggested I
ask the kind folks at Alliance Periperal Systems, since they are a development
partner of Apple's.  I did so, and received the following reply from Paul
McGraw from APS.  He has allowed me to forward this information, though with
the warning that Apple has a habit of changing its mind several times before
products are actually released.  Caveat Emptor.

"Mr. Kolodny,

 Though we are a development partner of Apple's and have insight into
 PowerPC development, I would have to respond to your question by
 saying that there really isn't a clear answer to the question yet.
 Preliminarily, I understand that standard SCSI drives will work in
 Power PC, though if I were a betting person, I would probably bet on
 the third-high (1" x 3.5") form factor, rather than what is referred
 to as a "half-height" of 1.65"x 3.5" form factor. Many large drive
 capacities are currently available in this form factor - some with
 spectacular performance numbers-and more are being announced each
 day. Considering your stated plans, you may want to consider a
 somewhat better performer than the 240 if it is your intention to
 move it to your Power PC hardware. Thr 240 is an ontstanding drive,
 but is no match for a high-end mac, let alone a Power PC. I'd
 consider a Quantum 525 (for mid-range performance) or a Maxtor 540
 (for relatively spectacular performance). Failing that, I'd wait to
 buy for 3-5 months, at which time I believe more migh performance
 options will be available in the 200-500 MB capacity range."

So that's the story.  Let me conclude by thanking Mr. McGraw and Adam Engst,
and provide a shameless plug for both APS and TidBits, both of which provide
great service to the Macintosh community.

Cheers,

Jonathan Kolodny
MRC Applied Psychology Unit

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 10:37:29 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Jean-Francois Sygnet)
Subject: StuffIt! Expander 3.02 (C)

[e-mail] writes:
> Has anyone else experienced these problems? [with Stuffit Expander3.0.2]

yes I have and more: on my IIcx running System 7.1 (and No Inits)
drap and dropping a Stuffit SITD/SIT! file sometimes (!)
starts Stuffit Expander 3.0.2 but nothing else happends.
Drag and dropping a secont time usually solves the problem.
I also recerted to 3.0.1

Jean-Francois Sygnet <[e-mail]>


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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 09:10:59 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.1 and Mode32 (C)

On Thu, 15 Jul, Bruce Goldstein wrote:

>On a SE/30 running System 7.1 and Mode 32, when I got Mathematica 2.2
>it crashed and would not run.  Getting rid of Mode 32 and installing
>the 32 bit enabler and the enabler patch fixed this problem and
>everything works OK.  Do not use Mode 32 with System 7.1 ...

Oh, I dunno about that, Bruce. I think you may be unnecessarily global.
I've been using Mode32 ever since System 7.1 came out. When I first tried
the 32-bit enabler (with Connectix patch), 32-bit addressing would turn
on, but "about this mac" showed no effect -- all memory above 8M showed
up assigned to the system. I went back to Mode32.

I've updated several critical extensions since then, so -- having seen
your note this morning -- I tried again. Took me a while to get past the
SAM Intercept messages. SAM screamed about the enabler modifiying Dayna-
File, DOS Mounter Plus, and Prevention (Public Util) until I turned off
its checking of "modifying code resources." Dunno if I feel warm and
fuzzy about disabling that check. However, "about this mac" now shows
the expected 3 of my 20M assigned to the system, so the enabler works.

At least on my sytems that need it (IIcx, DayStar 33MHz & IIx, DayStar
40Mhz) Mode 32 works well and does not require me to turn off a useful
anti-virus check (No, SAM's REMEMBER doesn't help in this case). No, I
don't have Mathematica.

In any event, there is certainly no global requirement to trash Mode32
in favor of the 32-bit enabler, and there is some argument for using
the Connectix product over the enabler in at least some cases.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:48:17 GMT
From: [e-mail] (p-m agapow)
Subject: Tapes & Backup for Mac

Having decided - given the volume of data that our lab has to backup - that
a tape drive and backups at night were the only way to go, a few problems
have arisen.

Ideally what we'd like to do is for the backup procedure to fire up on its
own at night, backup specific files for specific nights of the week and
maybe a total backup at the end of the week. While we're at it, may as
well wish for something that will do incrementals as well, and do the same
for PCs. I know Nortons will do this but only for Mac and on disc.

Anyone got any experiences to contribute?

p-m

paul-michael agapow ([e-mail]) Machine Intelligence Lab, LaTrobe
Uni

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 8:03:51 EDT
From: "Mr. Troy Kelley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Termination on Mac Drives

Is there any software that will tell me whether or not a Macintosh drive
has a terminator in it or not? Or do I have to take the drive apart in
order to tell.

Thanks
Troy Kelley

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 17:21:13 PDT
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: TeX-generated Postscript to EPS? (A)

>Does anyone know how to go about converting postscript to EPS? I realise this
>may not be as simple as it sounds, but this ability is currently needed as a
>matter of some urgency.

I have had luck with the following procedure for various postscript images:

1. Open the postscript file in MS Word.
2. Select all and change style to postscript.
3. Use LaserWriter 8.0 to print to file of type EPS, no preview.

Voila! You now have an EPS file which can be inserted into Word, MacDraw,
etc.
I don't know if this specifically works with TeX generated postscript.


--Dave

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 08:31:51 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Francis Knight, SIEM UK Felixstowe)
Subject: THINK C: UK upgrade prices [Q]

Ummm...
   Anyone got any sense out of Symantec (UK) about the UK upgrade from
Think C v5? The upgrade notice they sent me earlier this month has one or
two anomalies:
    THINK C 6.0                   RRP 219
    THINK C 6.0 + THINK Reference RRP 129    (a bargain?)

    C++ for Macintosh 6.0     upgrade  99
    C++ + THINK Reference     upgrade 139  (= 99 +40)
    C 6.0                     upgrade  69
    C 6.0 + THINK reference   upgrade  99  (= 69 +30)

   Note the THINK reference is 33% more expensive when supplied with C++.
Is it also 33% more extensive? Intriguingly, the MPW option wasn't listed.

   I phoned them, but the chap I spoke to claimed he was only authorised to
be as baffled as I was. If anybody has news on this, could they copy me
directly, please - I'm about 40 Digests behind in my reading, I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Francis K.


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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 07:29:12 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Thomas R Lawrence)
Subject: trouble typing the letter 'o'

Yup, this 'o' problem is one of the strangest things I've heard.  It
almost sounds like a dead-key problem.  You'll notice, if you type
option-i (on a US system, anyway), the keyboard will "lock up".

Now, if you type another vowel, you'll get the appropriate accented
character.  Anything else and the system will puke out BOTH
characters.

Now the really strange thing is why should the 'o' key be a dead
key.  I think we can rule out corrupted system files.  It's quite
possible that there is a race condition of some sort in the
operating system that causes this (i.e. a bug).  A race condition
would explain why it only happens to some people.  In other words,
the time between releasing the previous key and hitting the 'o'
key could be significant.

Here's a test:  does it only happen if you precede the 'o' key
with a key typed by the other hand?  How about does it only happen
after typing a key with the _same_ hand?  I'm interested in any
pattern that doesn't appear random.

So far from the responses, it looks like it only happens when
preceded by a key from the other hand.  In this case, perhaps
there are overlapping key presses and the system is unable to
handle it if the time of overlap is >just< the right value.

Thomas R. Lawrence

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 08:04:45 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Upgrade from IIsi to Centris?

I have a IIsi at home with 3mb RAM and 40mb HD.  The monitor is an 13"
rgb and I have the extended keyboard.  At work I have a Centris 650 with
8mb RAM, 230mb HD, CD-ROM, and possibly 1mb VRAM.  How do I tell if I have
1mb VRAM?  I was thinking about upgrading by selling my IIsi (keeping the
monitor and keyboard) and then buying a more powerful processor using my
educational discount.

When I bought my IIsi there was a good article in MacUser that explained
the attributes of each of the models.  Were there any articles in MacUser
or MacWorld that covers the Centris 650, Centris 610, IIvx and other
models that would be an upgrdae to the IIsi?  Where else might I get this
type information?

The University bookstore lists my Centris 650 at $3,216 and an equivalent
Centris 610 at $2,205.  What might a IIsi with 3mb/40mb sell for?  What
might it cost me to just buy a 200mb hard-drive and a CD-Rom player to
attach to my IIsi?  Would my 68030 be fast enough to handle a CD-ROM
player?  My Centris 650 has an application called CD Remote that allows me
to play audio CD's.  Is this a part of System 7.1 software or would I have
to purchase this type of application if I bought a CD-Rom drive for my IIsi?


[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 07:31:38 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word 4.0d and System 7.1

I have gotten many responses about my msword 4.0d problems when running
on a Centris 650 under system 7.1.  It appears that I need to do one of
two things:

     1)  call Microsoft and request word 4.0e (rev i)
     -  I do not know if I ever registered when I originally
        purchased 4.0d two years ago!?

     2)  disable processor caches
     -  but I have to restart every time I want to use Word
        or open a Word document

Someone mentioned that I could possibly run an extension that would
deactivate/disable my processor caches for Word only.  Is it possible
to do this and if so, how?  Is there a way to disable/enable the caches
without having to restart?  Thanks to all who responded to my original
question!

[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 09:20:09 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Zapping PRAM solves strange problems

Hi all,

In the process of doing some beta testing, I managed to mess some
things up on my Mac such that the little Macintosh icon in the Welcome
to Macintosh dialog was in black and white on my color monitor, which
was properly set to 256 colors. So I decided to zap the PRAM, something
I've never really done since I don't like having to go in and fix
various settings, like the mouse tracking rate. After rebooting and
getting everything reset, I discovered two interesting and useful
side effects.

First, my System had been taking almost 6 MB of RAM, which I thought was
a little excessive. After zapping the PRAM, that number dropped to
a much more reasonable 4.2 MB. Some of that was due to the disk cache
being lowered, no doubt, but I can't explain the rest of the drop,
not that I'm complaining, mind you.

Second, I'd been seeing a problem where AutoDoubler wouldn't kick
in automatically on my machine if I had my full set of 15 applications
running at once. If I quit out of a few, it would start compressing
during idle time again. Expansion always worked fine, and putting
the mouse in the Compress Now corner also worked fine. After zapping
the PRAM, AutoDoubler started doing idle time compression again, even
with all the applications active.

I can't explain this, but just as deleting the invisible AppleShare
PDS files from my shared volumes (so they could be rebuilt by File
Sharing) let File Sharing start up in almost no time at all in comarison
to the 15 minutes it used to take, zapping the PRAM has done good
stuff to my Mac. It's certainly not a panacea, but if you're seeing
weird problems, I recommend that you try it and see if anything changes.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 09:44:16 +0200
From: Bowyer Jeff <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: jbowyer
From: [e-mail] (Bowyer Jeff)
Subject: International Software
Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 07:44:14 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


I manage the INSOFT-L Internationalization of Software mailing list.
INSOFT-L has over 500 subscribers, including representatives from the
most prominent firms involved in software internationalization and
localization.  For example, over 20 people from Microsoft belong to
INSOFT-L; in fact, Microsoft's director of international products is a
member.  However, nobody on INSOFT-L speaks for Macintosh-related
internationalization issues.  Just last week, a representative for Amiga
computers and a representative for Acorn computers explained the
internationalization capabilities of their respective systems.  However,
no one has discussed Macintosh's internationalization features.

Would you please mention our need in your digest?  Thank you.


Jeff Bowyer
INSOFT-L List Manager


INSOFT-L on [e-mail]   Internationalization of Software
                    Discussion List

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       interface language differs from the original product.

   Topics discussed on this list include:

    -- Techniques for developing new software

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    -- Internationalization tools

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 08:12:49 -0400
From: PHILLIP MICHAEL WILLIAMS <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: pmw0
From: [e-mail] (PHILLIP MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Subject: Free memory?? What gives??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 12:12:47 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 22

I have noticed this problem for quite some time.  In the past I contributed
the problem to software installed with my ethernet card, since the software
has been removed and the problem still persists I don't know what to do.
Here's the problem:

Sometimes when I quit an application the system does not know that the memory
is available.  For example, I'll run MS Word and Igor together.  I only have 5
meg of RAM so if I want to run something else I have to quit one of the open
apps.  Let's say that I quit Igor.  When I go to open the new app I get the
not enough memory error message.  If I go to About This Macintosh... I see
that the system and MS Word are open.  The total memory used is a litlle under
4 meg, so I should have 1+ meg left.  However, my mac is telling me that there
is zero k free.  If I quit Word all the memory is once again available.

Has anyone else had this problem.  I don't think it's a virus.  I use
gatekeeper and the latest Disenfectent.

System:  Mac IIsi, 5 MB Ram, 7.0 tuned, Math co-processor.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Phil Williams

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Date: 19 Jul 1993 12:13:00 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>

>>> Does anyone in the Mac world have recommendations for "forms"
>>> generators?  Something like Perform by Delrina which is in the DOS
>>> world. Should allow you to generate and distribute "forms" to people
>>> that can only be filled out in a specific way.  Thanks in advance for
>>> your help.

Try InFormed by Shana. We're about to standardize on them here at ARPA,
switching from TrueForm. Smart form from Claris is an orphan product.

David Lawrence
Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job
CAC/ARPA                                   *in* the world
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 75300,2460     AOL: OLTDavid or DoctorMac

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